85 9.35 pt 2 The Abstract Pensieve: Dumbledore is Not Dead

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Wednesday, November 30, 2005

Dumbledore is Not Dead

The Champion of Commoners, Mudbloods and Muggles... Lives!!

I have quite a convincing theory that Dumbledore is not dead (quite unlike the one about his Horcrux!)
I am presuming that Dumbledore set up an elaborate plan with Snape about the proceedings.
Now here’s what I think...
  • Snape was approached by Narcissa and Bellatrix and either Snape earlier knew of Malfoy plan or he got it out of Narcissa by his excellent legilemency.
  • Snape made the Unbreakable Vow. During the vow, not once it has been said that Snape is vowing to help Draco to kill Dumbledore. He only says that he will help Draco to complete the assigned task. This task could have been fixing the vanishing cabinet, or at least Snape would have thought the same while making the vow. After all, it is magic (seems to me quite like law!)
  • Also, given Dumbledore unflinching faith in Snape, it can be that Snape earlier made an Unbreakable Vow with Dumbledore to remain loyal to him. Hence, when he made the vow with Narcissa, it was cancelled as it contradicted the vow made earlier with old D.
  • Snape and Dumbledore talked about it and made the plan on he to stage Dumbledore’s death. Now we shift to the chapter- The Lightning Struck Tower.
  • Harry and Dumbledore flew to the tower and were confronted by Draco. Before that, Dumbledore freezed Harry.
  • The Death eaters arrived, shortly followed by Snape. On Dumbledore’s pleading, Snape muttered Avada Kedavra, the killing curse.
  • Remember in OOTP, when Harry said the Cruciatus Curse on Bellatrix. Bellatrix was unharmed, and the curse didn’t work as Harry didn’t mean to cause severe pain, even though Harry was feeling so intense hatred for Bellatrix. That’s the case with Unforgivable curses, you have to really mean them.
  • Similarly, Snape (in the text, it is written that his face had hatred and revulsion, that means he was revulsed by what he was about to do) muttered Avada Kedavra on Dumbledore without meaning it. Hence, instead of just life being snuffed out and Dumbledore’s body limping lifelessly, Dumbledore was blasted out of the tower.
  • Now Harry was de-freezed, and he presumed that the spell was lifted because Dumbledore was dead. But is it that necessary? It could have simply that Snape saw Harry in spite of his Invisibility cloak (Dumbledore could do so in PS, he could have taught Snape that in HBP) or Dumbledore could have told Snape earlier that Harry would be there. Then Snape de-freezed Harry to complete the effect.
  • Now comes the most interesting part. In the Chapter, The Phoenix Lament, Fawkes is crying while Harry is in the hospital, in the corridor, outside the school and back again. So, Fawkes is crying and crying and crying; that is, he is simply shedding many, many tears. And we all know that Phoenix tears have great healing powers. Now, who could Fawkes possibly be healing so intensely?? Dumbledore, of course!!
  • Now in the last Chapter, The White Tomb, Dumbledore’s tomb suddenly erupts in flames on its own and his tomb is encased.
  • Flames… the 1st, yes 1st page of POA talks about a basic Flame Freezing charm, in which a wizard could show that he was being burnt but meanwhile enjoy a tickling sensation. What I am implying is that Dumbledore used it to simply show that he was dead. Also, false flames seem to be Dumbledore’s specialty. Remember, in HBP, how he scared the wits out of young Tom by falsely burning his wardrobe. He really wished that he could do it again to discipline the big V. Well, I think he did.

  • Again, there is Harry witnessing the phoenix-flying-out-of-the-tomb illusion. I think that this is a probability that Dumbledore is an Animagus in the form of a phoenix! He magically burned himself and then flew out of the tomb as a phoenix, and was not spotted by anyone except Harry because of the high flames.
  • Also, Fawkes the phoenix, as we go to know in Ootp, can apparate\dissaprate from Hogwarts(this was how old D escaped Fudge). It can be that Fawkes apparated to take Dumbledore with him. We know that teleportation ofa phoenix causes flames to erupt, but the flames could easily be disguised among the flames already erupting arounf Dumbledore's tomb.
  • Another queation- Where would Dumbledore go? Obviously, there are many places, but the most likely place to me is Godric's Hollow. The Dumbledore-Gryffindor connection is sjown strongly in the books, and it can be that Godric's Hollow (which got a special mention at he end of HBP) could be a residential headquarter for Dumbledore.
So that’s what I think was old D’s plan to fool Voldemort and give him over-confidence. Also, he had taught Harry everything and now Harry would get the chance to become self-dependent and use his powers instead of relying on Dumbledore.

30 Comments:

  • This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:12 AM  

  • if dumbledore is somehow dead then surely it was his own plan to be dead.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:24 AM  

  • Ur explanation is quite good and U have gone into detail. I also went to Dunbledoreisnotdead.com which is also given in ur links.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:24 AM  

  • This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    By Blogger Mrudula Sreekanth, at 3:11 AM  

  • Your explanation is pretty good. You have surely done a good research about it! But I personally feel that Dumbeldore is dead as the Author seems to be killed all the people whom Harry loved and trusted and who were powerful enough to help him. He now has to fight V alone in the 7th book.

    By Blogger Mrudula Sreekanth, at 3:13 AM  

  • i think that your ideas were good, but im not convinced

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:06 PM  

  • if Dumbledore is really dead in book 7 then j.k. rowlings made a mistake, because the avada kedavra snape did had a different effect from all the other avada kedavres in the books, throwing dumbledore away.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:49 PM  

  • true true :) i reckon that too. lol its a rhyme! lol but yeah it all makes sense....

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:27 AM  

  • Why did you steal someone else's ideas and post them in this blog? That's pretty lame, but I guess this comment, like all the others saying the same thing, will be deleted.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:29 AM  

  • Dear Writer(s) of above 2 comments,

    Owing to your pathetic language and inferior intellect, you may think that I would delete your comments. But in JKR's own words(HBP, Lord Voldemort's Request):

    Greatness inspires Envy, Envy engenders Spite, Spite spaws Lies...

    So you are forgiven and allowed to shout till your sorry throat becomes sore.

    By Blogger Varun Goel, at 4:58 AM  

  • I need you to worry about the death of the Dumbledore again.
    b'coz to give the story a new twist he is deliberately made to die.....

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:44 AM  

  • i fully agree with u and appreciate ur ideass....continue thinking wildlyyyy so that u become an author like JKR someday...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:11 AM  

  • but if dumbledore was not dead , then why did harry thought that all the people who love or care for him are all dead.( his mum , dad, sirius black, and now dumbledore)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:17 AM  

  • THE OBSERVATION IS MARVELOUS.I TOTALLY AGREE WITH VARUN.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:40 AM  

  • To the writers of aboce three comments:
    Thank you for your thoughts.

    Dear Yashna,

    Although your observation is unquestionable, let me remind you that most of the things Harry thinks turn out to be opposite in nature.
    In PS, harry thought that Snape was the villain but it was Quirell.
    In COS, TMR turned out to be Voldemort when Harry thought he was an ally.
    In POA, Sirius Black was the victim, not the culprit and so on...

    So your observation again reistates the theory that old D is not dead.

    By Blogger Varun Goel, at 9:42 AM  

  • I totally agree to you that dumbledore is not dead.but i think that in seventh part either harry or dumbledore will die.preferably Harry and also voldemort. That would give a good a good ending.
    It will make 'HARRY POTTER' immortal.
    I have also some other Harry pottr e-books written by 'Yusman Aliudin'my id kritics@yahoo.com or mini2u4u@reddiffmail.com
    if you want tham contact me

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:44 AM  

  • Sweety don’t get upset coz I didn’t call u a dumbass fr nthin. Unlike u I hv gt proper reasons 2 back whatever I sd bout u. I wud hv acknowledged ur theories if there hd been any reason fr them 2 b true. Say fr an instant we believe ur bullshit, tell me wat wud hv been the reason 2 fake his death? Dumbledore 2 me doesn’t come across as a person who wud like 2 stay in the dark & try 2 play hide n seek like voldemort did. Maybe 2 cement vold’s faith in snape? But he already considered him in his confidences. And if this was the intention it cud hv bin accomplished much earlier than this & also this job wasn’t assigned 2 snape in the 1st place. So why wud he PRETEND 2 kill him? there wasn’t any need. Was there? Maybe 2 honour the unbreakable vow which he cudnt hv done without actually killing him. Unless ofcourse if malfoy wasn’t assigned this job at all(which isn’t likely after all the attempts 2 kill dumbledore,etc,etc ) & hence the vow didn’t demand this. then again the ques that why actually snape performed the spell if he didn’t intend anything but killing dumbledore. No doubt ur observations n the theories u hv formulated n the hard work u hv put un is appreciable and I must admit that sum of them really hd me thinking bt not long enough 2 affect my own. But alas most of them seem like u hv bin desperately tryin 2 find sumthin out of nuthin.
    And wat is this dat I hear? U wanna go the-‘Dumbledore is DEAD’-way now dat people(fools) hv started thinking dat he might be actually alive. So u haven’t got a stand of ur own? Hv u? U don’t actually think or feel strongly bout anything. Just wanna pruv dat u r sum kind of a rebel, always going against the tide, u r unique, u think
    independently, u can influence people into thinking whatever u want them 2, forming perceptions fr them and u r different from others. But dat u really are-u know diff from others- coz u r a DUMBASS unlike many of us.
    With NO APOLOGIES,
    Love
    Sweenie

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:52 AM  

  • Dear Sweenie,

    First of all, it was a pleasure to see a mentally inferior person like you speak in more than 10 words (that too in rude language). I must admit that I never thought that you could correspond in a civilised manner, and I am correct as always.

    You have put several allegations on me, and all I can say is- Thank You (except for the Dumbass one).

    You have shown that you can take a stand for something (a virtue I do not possess accoring to you). I say this because you leave no chance to abuse me for no apparently logical reasons. Well, even old D receives daily owls complaining abt his functioning of schools ( I must be lucky as I only get one, and thankfully that too not on a daily basis).

    Well, Sweenie, I am obliged that you took out your worthless time commenting on my blog, as people who let out shit in places other than the loo are rare.

    Also, allow me to add that I, unlike you, showed logical arguments suppoting theories instead of pointless whimpering, which seems to be ur trademark.

    I mean no insult to you and it is a privelege to meet a devoted HP fan, however inferior or disgraceful.

    Have a pleasant day.

    With SYMPATHY for your primitive brains,

    Varun Goel

    PS: Looking for an excuse to insult people superior than you? Try http://greatwizards.blogspot.com (No rude language this time please, a request from a civilised human being to another one).

    By Blogger Varun Goel, at 8:14 AM  

  • Ur characteristic tendency of condemning people without appearing
    2 do so is indeed commendable but not at all appreciable. no more
    appreciable is the fact that any mind that dare think diff. frm u
    comes across as primitive 2 u.
    Owing 2 ur well-advanced, highly intelligent, 22nd century mind
    (dat cn never go wrong) u think ur superiority & ur theories are
    unchallengeable.u hv gt such a thick air of impt.,authority,
    superiority&attitude around u dat it is hindering ur sight.
    paying heed 2 wat others think & believe is I suppose a quality
    dat can in no way be associated 2 u .Such trivial things r nt urs
    2 do.Are they??? Worth nuthin more than shit 2 u. So, i wonder
    wat 2 make out of ur appeal 2 comment on ur other theories
    (my mind being being primitive, my reflexes slow & poor).
    Surely u cant b hoping dat i'm gonna set my primitive mind 2
    the unrewarding, unconsequential, highly unappreciated & time
    consuming task(u know, ur theories formulated after such in
    depth analysis, it takes a while 2 comprehend them) of reading
    & commenting onur theories of which u r a little 2 sure.

    heartiest condolences 2 a HURT EGO
    Sweenie

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:09 AM  

  • Oh i'm sorry i failed 2 acknowledge ur very well quoted line-
    "Greatness inspires envy, envy engenders spite, spite spawns lies"
    I must admit dat u r as smug, as proudy, as ignorant,
    as full of urself as the dear old Voldy.
    Keep flying in the air of ur false pride & u'll hv a great fall.
    Wishing u a safe landing
    Sweenie


    PS:forgive me the lack of professional courtesy once again as I
    say dat u fully deserve the shit u get(not dat its really shit, its
    naked truth)
    FACE IT DEAR!!!
    Wish u well-Always

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:12 AM  

  • http://greatwizards.blogspot.com

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:49 PM  

  • hi,
    ur description that dumbledore is not dead is entirely perfect nd i want to say one more clue regarding harry was aware of lighting struck tower when he heard professor TRELAWNEY murmuring seeing her cards in HBP when harry over hears her on his way to private class with dumbledore.i dont think this is coincidence since TRELAWNEYS class room is in TOP OF NORTH TOWER.we r never mentioned that her class room can be reached through dumbledore's office.wish my guess may satisfy the readers of this site.

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  • A truly fascinating theory. A shame that it was proven wrong. Interesting to see that you are correct in the idea of Dumbledore trusting Snape, although it was for different reasons that Snape killed Dumbledore at the end of HBP, seeing as Dumbledore was already dieing. I enjoyed reading this.

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