85 9.35 pt 2 The Abstract Pensieve: Fawkes - Dumbledore's Horcrux

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Fawkes - Dumbledore's Horcrux

Dumbledore’s Horcrux



I know that there will be some initial skepticism, but I think that Dumbledore has a Horcrux, in none another that Fawkes the phoenix. He himself said that there can be Horcruxes in living beings, and pointed towards the unnatural behavior of Nagini, Voldemort’s snake, and also saying that he had extraordinary control over her, even for a parselmouth. Now let me point you towards the unnatural behavior of Fawkes, which may point towards its connection with Dumbledore...

  • Harry is almost in Death’s mouth (like always) in the Chamber of secrets, cornered by the Heir of Slytherin and the sinister monster of Slytherin, the Basilisk, which would have killed Harry by only looking into his eyeballs.

But who saved our hero? Yes, Fawkes. Even though that Dumbledore was not there in Hogwarts, Fawkes went underground and saved Harry, and even carried Gryffindor’s sword with him, which Harry eventually used to slay the snake.

  • Fawkes saved Harry without any ado in COS, but why didn’t he save his master Dumbledore in HBP? Only because Dumbledore told him not to do so as his death was the part of a plan he formed with Snape. Would a normal pet understand such complexity? I doubt it.
  • Who are the main villain and Hero? Of course, Lord Voldemort and Harry Potter. What do their wands have in common, which subsequently led to Priory Incantatem and helped Harry save his life in the GOF? Of course, the core, Phoenix feather. Whose feather? You got it- our very own, Fawkes (Surely, not by extreme coincidence).

  • A phoenix is technically immortal, as it is reborn from its ashes, and would have been a really good choice for something that is used to make you immortal.

  • Voldemort created a Horcrux in a snake because he loved snakes. Similarly, Dumbledore (the opposite of Voldemort), adored phoenixes (he named his group- The Order of the Phoenix), and had one as his faithful pet.

  • Dumbledore placed faith above everything else, he even trusted Snape, a death-eater, only because of faith. And what did he tell Harry about phoenixes? That they made highly faithful pets. If he could entrust his soul to a death eater only because of faith, why not a part of it to someone who he knew was eternally faithful.

  • I said a lot about Dumbledore’s fondness about Fawkes, but wasn’t it equally reciprocated by the phoenix towards his master. After Dumbledore was murdered, The Phoenix Lamented and then flew away.

  • Read HBP, Pg 601, last paragraph. It says-
    Harry thought, for one Heart stopping moment, that he saw a phoenix fly joyfully into the blue, but next second the fire had vanished. Ring any bells??

I know that Dumbledore is the epitome of goodness, but how did he gain so much knowledge about Horcruxes, which are the darkest magical inventions, considered unmentionable even by the standards of Magick Moste Evile. Surely some experiments may have helped…

Conclusively, I would like to say that I made this guess only because I couldn’t stand to see Dumbledore die.

Also, thanks to Rohit Rajaram for the inspiration.

106 Comments:

  • we all know that chances of Dum. being dead are quite slim but the theory that he has a horcrux is quite far fetched. after all, it the evilest of magical inventions. and dum. is a good person.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:21 AM  

  • it can be that there is sumthing like a good horcrux. that is a horcrux made by good means in a pure creature.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:21 AM  

  • hi
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    slughorn said u need to kill to make hocrux.but albus will not resort to that level reply at
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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:36 AM  

  • how dare uuuuu......dis only shows ur lack of understanding....a horcrux is made by KILLING....a legend of a man like dumbledore can never KILL.....im shocked at da way imaginations go wild....n talking abt a GOOD HORCRUX as commented by some1.......very cleary its given HORCRUX IS DARK STUFF....VERY VERY DARK INDEED...so clearly ders no such thing such as a gud horcrux or every wizard would b having 1....even if dat would b da case, making horcruxes would b taught as 1 of da subjects at hogwarts...u pple r simply unbelieveable

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:49 AM  

  • I quite like the idea of Fawkes being Dumbledore's horcrux....You've argued the point very well. Mentioning many things i have forgotten or didn't even think of. I myself was thinking Dumbledore's horcrux must be in Griffyndor's sword, but hearing the Fawkes theory that sounds more clever.
    As for all you saying Dumbledore is TOO GOOD to have a horcrux because it is a very dark magical thing to have:

    Even Dumbledore says in HBP that even good people might have a horcrux to prevent some evil, or something like that...the point is he told Harry that even GOOD wizards might have a horcrux. AKA HE HIMSELF HAS ONE (Don't forget the time before Harry's birth was a very dark period indeed, where Voldemort was in power, a good wizard could have killed a Death Eater if it meant many innocent lives saved). Thus, It is most likely Dumbledore HAS a horcrux.

    ps: I really like the connection b/w the pheonix, fawkes, and the feathers makingup Voldemort's and Harry's wands. GOOD CONNECTION!!!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:07 PM  

  • Thanks to the writer of the above comment. I am glad that you appreciate the point.

    By Blogger Varun Goel, at 7:44 AM  

  • I definently agree with you. After having had read the 'Half-Blood Prince', and hearing Dumbledore speak of Horcrxes so knowlegably, it became clear. If Voldemort could turn his snake into a horcruxe, then Dumbledore could just as easily turned Fawkes into one. I do not think your idea is far fetched at all, in fact, I believe it is one of the best assumptions yet. If Dumbledore does in fact live in Fawkes, then would he be able to become himself (in body as well), or would he be limited to live in a Phoenix body?

    That's what I'd like to know.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:54 PM  

  • I definently agree with you. After having had read the 'Half-Blood Prince', and hearing Dumbledore speak of Horcrxes so knowlegably, it became clear. If Voldemort could turn his snake into a horcruxe, then Dumbledore could just as easily turned Fawkes into one. I do not think your idea is far fetched at all, in fact, I believe it is one of the best assumptions yet. If Dumbledore does in fact live in Fawkes, then would he be able to become himself (in body as well), or would he be limited to live in a Phoenix body?

    That's what I'd like to know.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:54 PM  

  • Thanks to the writer of the above comment. You have definetely understood the theory methodically and takena logical approach.

    As for your query, I have no idea but I think that it is upon the maker of the horcrux whether he wants to come out in human form or not. Like on COS, Tom M. Riddle wanted to reopen thr Chamber and therefore came out as human. But it can be that other horcruxes which are made solely to guard the piece of soul do not function the same way.

    By Blogger Varun Goel, at 11:09 PM  

  • I dont think that dumbledore has a horcrux.Horace said that for making a horcrux you need to kill someone. & i dont think that dumbledore would kill someone for that purpose...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:43 PM  

  • My friend Vivek, I would like to ask you that what do you know of Dumbledore??

    He is 150 years old and we have account of the years when he taught at Hogwarts and when he was headmaster there. There is a significant gap before and between these eras and no one knows what Dumbledore did then. (except few things like learning Mermish, keeping fawkes as a pet, learning to be invisible without cloaks, developing a taste of sweets... making a horcrux???!)

    By Blogger Varun Goel, at 7:40 AM  

  • i think fawkes is not the horcrux but it is the animaggus of dumbledore
    Now but as we have seen both of them together in movies, I think there can be some 'CLONNING CHARM'.Afterall this is just a 'World Of Magic'.Everybody can't perform it definately dumbledore can do it.He must have not registered himself as he could use this against voldemort

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:22 AM  

  • i think fawkes is not the horcrux but it is the animaggus of dumbledore
    Now but as we have seen both of them together in movies, I think there can be some 'CLONNING CHARM'.Afterall this is just a 'World Of Magic'.Everybody can't perform it definately dumbledore can do it.He must have not registered himself as he could use this against voldemort

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:23 AM  

  • A horcrux isn't evil; it's what must be done to create it that is evil. Once I learned of Voldemort's horcruxes, I concluded that Dumbledore had one of his own. And we heard about the three way duel between Albus, Aberforth, and Grindelwald. It was never made clear whose spell killed Ariana. I suspect it was Albus who accidentally killed her, thus making a way to make a horcrux. And Voldemort was so smart that he was stupid. He created several, when Albus only needed one that would always be reborn. Jo should really give us more from the Harry Potter world.

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